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A Username chenge request declined[edit]

Based on CU results, I declined the request from user:Wikiholic submitted on my user talk. The details were sent to Kalki and JeffQ. Having their feedback hopefully, I'll give a further report here. Thanks for your attention. --Aphaia 15:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

In a consult with JeffQ, we think we found a series of malicious activities behind this requester. With IP addresses got as CU results, we combined this user with AFUSCO who the community agreed deserved a permanent blocking. Jeff Q made some sysop actions in relation to these CU results, I hope he gives further reports. --Aphaia 13:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I apologize for the delay in reporting on this situation. As Aphaia said, the CU indicated that Wikiholic is a sockpuppet not only of AFUSCO, but of Ilikepie, Alextheman, TIPSTER, and many other names. He has a pattern of using some of them to vandalize, some to post friendly or supposedly helpful messages, and some to do very basic maintenance work, apparently in an attempt to establish credibility. He also has a habit of appearing to unaware of some basic wiki principles while doing edits elsewhere that show significant knowledge. We have done several CUs in the past half-year when blocks on his underlying IPs were released and he resumed his multiple-personality editing, and each one revealed the connections.
A troubling complication in this situation is that there is (or was) a Wikipedian "AFUSCO", who has since been renamed to "Alexfusco5". This user has apparently done considerable good work in the past few months, although I see some of the same hijinks (e.g., calling himself an administrator [1], [2]) in his history.
Assuming good faith, one might think AFUSCO/Alexfusco5 was simply not aware of Wikipedia policies and has since grown to become a valued contributor. He's even earned a number of barnstars for his considerable amount of anti-vandalism editing. Perhaps our like-named vandal merely adopted this good Wikipedian's name after getting annoyed at him. (I found at least one instance of Alexfusco warning the IP behind our AFUSCO/Wikiholic on Wikipedia.) But I keep running into peculiar behavior that increases my suspicions of the WP Alexfusco5:
  • Another Wikipedian suspecting sockpuppetry because a new user somehow found his way to WP:RFA and immediately nominated Alexfusco5 for adminship, which Alexfusco5 quickly turned down (saying he didn't plan to request adminship until May, presumably 2008).
  • Alexfusco5's similar nomination of GreaterWikiholic (now known as Marlith), which Marlith also turned down.
  • The oddity that Alexfusco5 moved both his and GreaterWikiholic's old user-talk page archives, within a few minutes of each other, after their name changes.
  • Alexfusco5's recurring problems with folks complaining about his hasty reversions and accusations of vandalism (like w:User talk:Alexfusco5/Archive 5#Your warning on my page), apparently because he uses a program and focuses primarily (if not solely) on the edit summaries and changes in size. This is a questionable way to vandal-patrol, but an effective way if one is rushing to achieve enough positive notoriety that one can stand for adminship. (Alexfusco5 seems to have no interest in anything but anti-vandalism, much like our AFUSCO did no editing of articles here.)
As far as connecting our and WP's AFUSCO, there are so many parallels (all those above, his first editing being a self-nomination for adminship, the smileys apparently adopted from Marlith, the odd mix of experience and apparent naivete, and others I'm keeping private to help spot likely sockpuppets) that if this is an imposter, it's the most thorough job of posing that I've seen. I'm virtually certain, even without a Wikipedia CU, that our AFUSCO is Wikipedia's as well.
The more time I spend on this, the odder it gets. My WP case is circumstantial for now, so I would like to discuss this further with their admins to see if an investigation there would be appropriate. But I just don't have the time to chase cross-project problems right now. If we're going to pursue this, we ought to have better than my anecdotal citatations above, which are challenging to collect because the WP editors are so prolific and the relevant WP discussion pages (e.g., RFA, SUSPSOCK) and their voluminous archives so buried in the massive bureaucracy there.
For now, I'm sticking solely to Wikiquote concerns. In my opinion, the person behind these edits has shown no real intention of contributing to this project, and has shown an unfathomable but consistent commitment to disrupting activities here by sowing confusion using sockpuppets. Therefore, I believe that his requests for unblocking, name changes, or other actions that might help him to do more editing here, should not be honored. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
As usual Jeff, an immensely thorough piece of work. I support your conclusion.--Cato 20:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Agreed.--Poetlister 20:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikiquote New Page Submission Error[edit]

I don't know if this error is just for me, but I attemped to create a new Wikiquote page for Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween and when I saved it, it said I needed to type in a code (so spammers can't spam Wikiquote). The image for the code never appeared, and I've tried multiple times to refresh the page but the image simply won't appear, so I could never submit the new page.

Can someone help me? I didn't know where else to post this so I decided to post it here. I was hoping one of you could have the answer or anything? In the meantime, I'll try and correct the problem, but I just wanted to let an admin know.

Ismael Cruz 00:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

There are some browsers where the necessary images do not show up. I don't know what browser you normally use, but I suggest trying another for this task, as some incompatibility with it and the software here could be responsible. ~ Kalki 00:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I use Internet Explorer. I guess I'll try and download another browser or something. Thank you, I'll let you know if there are still some problems. Ismael Cruz 00:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I would think any recent versions of Internet Explorer would have no problems, so something else might be the cause. I almost always use a Macintosh, but have tried many browsers, and I knew some of those I've tried don't work well with the wiki-software. ~ Kalki 00:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I just tried creating a page (in my user space) while not logged in, using Internet Explorer 6.0. I didn't see any request for a code. Ismael, could you describe the exact circumstance (computer, operating system, IE version, article title) in which you're seeing this problem, so I can try to duplicate it? You can use the "E-mail this user" link on my page (in the left margin) if you'd prefer to send these details privately. Thanks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
It will only appear for ips and non-auto confirmed editors with external links 21:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
As I said above, I tried it as an anonymous editor, not logged in. I didn't get anything stopping me from saving my edit. I didn't try saving something in the main namespace, though. Is this mechanism so clever that it doesn't screen anything but article-space edits? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Did you include the address of an external site?--Cato 22:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)