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Flood flag

I propose the creation of a new user group, "flood flag," on English Wikiquote to prevent repetitive changes from flooding the RecentChanges feed. This will streamline the feed and enhance the user experience for contributors. Saroj (talk) 03:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

The group can be added by sysops and removed by sysops and the users themselves. --Saroj (talk) 17:47, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Saroj, There is no consensus for Fabricator Task T351250 which you started merely two days after posting here. Can you please cancel it until such time that there is proper wq:consensus.

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 03:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T351250

Comments

•   Support —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:14, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
•   Support Lemonaka (talk) 10:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
•   Oppose Ottawahitech (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
• Thanks for adding this information, Saroj. I really have no idea what a "user group" is and how it works. I am speculating that if your suggestion gets implemented it would help those users who are looking at recent changes? Ottawahitech (talk) 17:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

  If the user is granted this right, their edits will not be shown in recent changes. They can then perform maintenance or repetitive tasks without tampering with recent changes. --Saroj (talk) 18:25, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

  Who would benefit from this? Sorry to be so obtuse. Ottawahitech (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

  I would like you to read this page for better information about this user group. --Saroj (talk) 16:27, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Saroj, Me too (I would also like to have enough volunteer time to read all the non-mainspace documentation available on WQ). However as it stands now I am way behind working on content additions that I was hoping to contribute today.

  Thank you for providing the link above. Ottawahitech (talk) 21:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Saroj, I just realized that the link you provided for the Simple Wikipedia documentation about Flood flag does not work for me, even though I can find the page when I go to Simple. I hope I am making sense? (sorry I got logged off in the middle so forgive me if I do not make sense) Ottawahitech (talk) 21:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

  I fixed the link. It seems to be working now. --Saroj (talk) 02:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

•   Support I believe the recent floods (AWB, Cat-a-Lot etc.) at this project suggests the need of such user group. MathXplore (talk) 05:40, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

  @MathXplore: How would the creation of a flood flag user group help you make better contributions to wikiquote? Ottawahitech (talk) 16:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

  If floods can be reduced by the flood flag, then it would make me easier to check the recent changes. MathXplore (talk) 03:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

•   Oppose - While I get the point that you wish to not have a flood of changes in the RC list, the down side I see to this approach is that when those users (myself being one of them that routinely works on categories, causing a lot of changes in short order) are not doing this work, their "non-mass change" edits will also be hidden. I don't think this is a good idea. If there was a way to hide only edits using AWB or Cat-a-lot I would support. ~ UDScott (talk) 16:53, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

  We can also choose to develop and approve bots for every type of AWB or Cat-a-lot action. MathXplore (talk) 03:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Any idea if it would be possible to make a tag for those and then ignore only those tags??? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  I don't know how to make tags, but I know that Wikimedia Commons have a specific tag for Cat-a-lot, can our admins import that feature to here? MathXplore (talk) 03:46, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Making AWB or Cat-a-Lot tags can be done. I'm just ignorant about if you can filter them out. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:47, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Sorry, I have no idea for that. Should we contact Phab for such features? MathXplore (talk) 03:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  If this user right is established, we can perform consistent editing actions (such as cleanup, categorization, etc.) without flooding the recent changes, making it easier to patrol the edits. Additionally, to use this feature responsibly, we may monitor users who have been granted this right to ensure that they do not abuse it. This practice is common in many wikis and proves to be beneficial. Saroj (talk) 20:40, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  pinging @MathXplore, Koavf, UDScott, Lemonaka: Saroj (talk) 14:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Here's my opinion, you can add such a right per request if you are not a sysop.
  If you are a sysop, you can add or remove yourself. If you feel that you may flood RC with numerous actions, you can add it before you take actions. Then you should remove your right just after you finish them at once. Granting such rights should be set to temporary, not permanent to prevent further disruptions. -‎Lemonaka‎ 01:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  That sounds fine, but how would one go about adding or removing oneself, as you suggest? Is it a simple change under one's preferences? Or something else? ~ UDScott (talk) 12:17, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

According to fabricator this proposal has received community consensus?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T351250

According to today's version of the Phabricator (see link to the right), there is consensus by this community to add a flood gate:

• "The English Wikiquote community has discussed enabling a flood flag user group. Here is the consensus of the community. The group can be added by sysops and removed by sysops and the users themselves."

How can this be true when I can clearly see 2 Opposes? Where is consensus defined?

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 21:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I would share your concern that this topic is really not yet decided. But in reading further on the page, I see that the ticket is not currently closed, but rather has been moved from Stalled back to Open, so I believe the discussion can continue. ~ UDScott (talk) 12:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote

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Dear all,

Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

On behalf of the UCoC Project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Report of the U4C Charter ratification and U4C Call for Candidates now available

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Hello all,

I am writing to you today with two important pieces of information. First, the report of the comments from the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter ratification is now available. Secondly, the call for candidates for the U4C is open now through April 1, 2024.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Per the charter, there are 16 seats on the U4C: eight community-at-large seats and eight regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement.

Read more and submit your application on Meta-wiki.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 16:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia Canada survey

Hi! Wikimedia Canada invites contributors living in Canada to take part in our 2024 Community Survey. The survey takes approximately five minutes to complete and closes on March 31, 2024. It is available in both French and English. To learn more, please visit the survey project page on Meta. Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 00:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Are song lyrics allowed?

Hey folks, new guy here ... I looked through "What Wikiquote is/is not" and didn't see it mentioned, so I'm asking here: May song lyrics be included as quotations? I hope so; I just added a few lines from Pink Floyd's song "Time" to this Category article. If it's not OK, please just revert, no hard feelings. Also, I wrestled with the formatting without much success ... if anyone can fix/improve the way this entry appears, please do, and if necessary, tell me how it should be done. Thanks! Yesthatbruce (talk) 03:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, song lyrics are the same in principle as other material that is likely to be copyrighted, so please just make sure that you're sticking to actually quotable lyrics and not just copy/pasting everything from the Internet indiscriminately. Happy to have you, B. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Will do re copyright; it's important. And I now realize that I was looking at a Category page, as opposed to a page about a person, such as Bob Dylan, whose page includes trillions of lyrics. Duh. Yesthatbruce (talk) 12:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Hindsight is 20/20. I appreciate anyone brave enough to ask a good faith question on the Internet. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2024 Selection

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Dear all,

This year, the term of 4 (four) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.

The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Board Governance Committee created a Board Selection Working Group from Trustees who cannot be candidates in the 2024 community- and affiliate-selected trustee selection process composed of Dariusz Jemielniak, Nataliia Tymkiv, Esra'a Al Shafei, Kathy Collins, and Shani Evenstein Sigalov [3]. The group is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2024 trustee selection process, and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].

Here are the key planned dates:

• May 2024: Call for candidates and call for questions
• June 2024: Affiliates vote to shortlist 12 candidates (no shortlisting if 15 or less candidates apply) [5]
• June-August 2024: Campaign period
• End of August / beginning of September 2024: Two-week community voting period
• October–November 2024: Background check of selected candidates
• Board's Meeting in December 2024: New trustees seated

Learn more about the 2024 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page, and make your plan.

Election Volunteers

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Dariusz Jemielniak (Governance Committee Chair, Board Selection Working Group)

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Results#Elected

[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter

[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes:2023-08-15#Governance_Committee

[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles

[5] Even though the ideal number is 12 candidates for 4 open seats, the shortlisting process will be triggered if there are more than 15 candidates because the 1-3 candidates that are removed might feel ostracized and it would be a lot of work for affiliates to carry out the shortlisting process to only eliminate 1-3 candidates from the candidate list.

MPossoupe_(WMF)19:57, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Include a Quote

Good afternoon,

A former teacher of mine, Ramon A. Qeuevedo, that worked at Bebensee Elementary in Arlington, TX would say, "Of course you don't know it, it is called learning. if you knew it, it would be called review.". or "of course you don't know it, it is called learning. if you already knew it, it would be called review." I see that one version of this quote is listed in Quotepark.com and the quote is attributed to him. What can I do to include the quote here?

Thank you, Gabby Estrada 1gabbyestrada (talk) 20:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Global ban proposal for Slowking4

Hello. This is to notify the community that there is an ongoing global ban proposal for User:Slowking4 who has been active on this wiki. You are invited to participate at m:Requests for comment/Global ban for Slowking4 (2). Thank you. Seawolf35 (talk) 19:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)