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Flood flag

I propose the creation of a new user group, "flood flag," on English Wikiquote to prevent repetitive changes from flooding the RecentChanges feed. This will streamline the feed and enhance the user experience for contributors. Saroj (talk) 03:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

The group can be added by sysops and removed by sysops and the users themselves. --Saroj (talk) 17:47, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Saroj, There is no consensus for Fabricator Task T351250 which you started merely two days after posting here. Can you please cancel it until such time that there is proper wq:consensus.

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 03:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T351250

Comments

•   Support —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:14, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
•   Support Lemonaka (talk) 10:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
•   Oppose Ottawahitech (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
• Thanks for adding this information, Saroj. I really have no idea what a "user group" is and how it works. I am speculating that if your suggestion gets implemented it would help those users who are looking at recent changes? Ottawahitech (talk) 17:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

  If the user is granted this right, their edits will not be shown in recent changes. They can then perform maintenance or repetitive tasks without tampering with recent changes. --Saroj (talk) 18:25, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

  Who would benefit from this? Sorry to be so obtuse. Ottawahitech (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

  I would like you to read this page for better information about this user group. --Saroj (talk) 16:27, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Saroj, Me too (I would also like to have enough volunteer time to read all the non-mainspace documentation available on WQ). However as it stands now I am way behind working on content additions that I was hoping to contribute today.

  Thank you for providing the link above. Ottawahitech (talk) 21:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Saroj, I just realized that the link you provided for the Simple Wikipedia documentation about Flood flag does not work for me, even though I can find the page when I go to Simple. I hope I am making sense? (sorry I got logged off in the middle so forgive me if I do not make sense) Ottawahitech (talk) 21:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

  I fixed the link. It seems to be working now. --Saroj (talk) 02:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

•   Support I believe the recent floods (AWB, Cat-a-Lot etc.) at this project suggests the need of such user group. MathXplore (talk) 05:40, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

  @MathXplore: How would the creation of a flood flag user group help you make better contributions to wikiquote? Ottawahitech (talk) 16:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

  If floods can be reduced by the flood flag, then it would make me easier to check the recent changes. MathXplore (talk) 03:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

•   Oppose - While I get the point that you wish to not have a flood of changes in the RC list, the down side I see to this approach is that when those users (myself being one of them that routinely works on categories, causing a lot of changes in short order) are not doing this work, their "non-mass change" edits will also be hidden. I don't think this is a good idea. If there was a way to hide only edits using AWB or Cat-a-lot I would support. ~ UDScott (talk) 16:53, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

  We can also choose to develop and approve bots for every type of AWB or Cat-a-lot action. MathXplore (talk) 03:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Any idea if it would be possible to make a tag for those and then ignore only those tags??? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  I don't know how to make tags, but I know that Wikimedia Commons have a specific tag for Cat-a-lot, can our admins import that feature to here? MathXplore (talk) 03:46, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Making AWB or Cat-a-Lot tags can be done. I'm just ignorant about if you can filter them out. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:47, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  Sorry, I have no idea for that. Should we contact Phab for such features? MathXplore (talk) 03:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

  If this user right is established, we can perform consistent editing actions (such as cleanup, categorization, etc.) without flooding the recent changes, making it easier to patrol the edits. Additionally, to use this feature responsibly, we may monitor users who have been granted this right to ensure that they do not abuse it. This practice is common in many wikis and proves to be beneficial. Saroj (talk) 20:40, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  pinging @MathXplore, Koavf, UDScott, Lemonaka: Saroj (talk) 14:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Here's my opinion, you can add such a right per request if you are not a sysop.
  If you are a sysop, you can add or remove yourself. If you feel that you may flood RC with numerous actions, you can add it before you take actions. Then you should remove your right just after you finish them at once. Granting such rights should be set to temporary, not permanent to prevent further disruptions. -‎Lemonaka‎ 01:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  That sounds fine, but how would one go about adding or removing oneself, as you suggest? Is it a simple change under one's preferences? Or something else? ~ UDScott (talk) 12:17, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

According to fabricator this proposal has received community consensus?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T351250

According to today's version of the Phabricator (see link to the right), there is consensus by this community to add a flood gate:

• "The English Wikiquote community has discussed enabling a flood flag user group. Here is the consensus of the community. The group can be added by sysops and removed by sysops and the users themselves."

How can this be true when I can clearly see 2 Opposes? Where is consensus defined?

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 21:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I would share your concern that this topic is really not yet decided. But in reading further on the page, I see that the ticket is not currently closed, but rather has been moved from Stalled back to Open, so I believe the discussion can continue. ~ UDScott (talk) 12:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

IMPORTANT: Admin activity review

Hello. A policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, interface administrator, etc.) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis with no inactivity policy. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the admin activity review.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no logged actions for more than 2 years):

1. Pmlineditor (administrator)

These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.

However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki.

Thanks, Superpes15 (talk) 15:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Announcing the results of the UCoC Coordinating Committee Charter ratification vote

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Thank you everyone for following the progress of the Universal Code of Conduct. I am writing to you today to announce the outcome of the ratification vote on the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter. 1746 contributors voted in this ratification vote with 1249 voters supporting the Charter and 420 voters not. The ratification vote process allowed for voters to provide comments about the Charter.

A report of voting statistics and a summary of voter comments will be published on Meta-wiki in the coming weeks.

Please look forward to hearing about the next steps soon.

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Report of the U4C Charter ratification and U4C Call for Candidates now available

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Hello all,

I am writing to you today with two important pieces of information. First, the report of the comments from the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter ratification is now available. Secondly, the call for candidates for the U4C is open now through April 1, 2024.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members are invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Per the charter, there are 16 seats on the U4C: eight community-at-large seats and eight regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement.

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Wikimedia Canada survey

Hi! Wikimedia Canada invites contributors living in Canada to take part in our 2024 Community Survey. The survey takes approximately five minutes to complete and closes on March 31, 2024. It is available in both French and English. To learn more, please visit the survey project page on Meta. Chelsea Chiovelli (WMCA) (talk) 00:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)