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User:Xsaorapa's abusive sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry

Xsaorapa (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log) was using a sock SPA to give meatpuppet instructions to Pratap Pandit. This was at least the second time this user used an abusive sockpuppetry on wikiquote. The abusive sockpuppetry was confirmed by a steward.

It always seemed strange that a new user like Pratap would be templating dozens of articles with little used templates and nominating articles for deletion. Now we know that Pratap was acting as a meatpuppet for Xsaorapa under his instructions, over email and/or little used talkpages. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 18:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

First of all, Pratap Pandit was not acting under my instructions and we never had any email exchange. The only thing I did I was to inform him that you were using multiple accounts, that's all.

Secondly, for years now, Jedi3 (user:დამოკიდებულება) has been adding a massive amount of quotes (mainly from Hindu nationalists) to push a political agenda on every Islam/Hinduism/India-related page and even unrelated. There was a case where an user was blocked indefinitely from Wikiquote for "Pro-Russian/anti-American POV". I don't see much difference in what this user has been doing all this time, despite the fact that this issue was raised before. --Xsaorapa (talk) 21:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

It is clear that you were giving instructions to Pratap, and he copied them word for word, so he was acting under your instructions. What other purpose was there for an abusive sock SPA? You were giving many misleading claims and false claims to Pratap. It is not the first time you used abusive sockpuppetry, as you admitted here [1]. Also, stop your personal attacks, I have added a wide variety of quotes, both pro and contra on many topics, also many pro-Islam quotes. And the same quote could be positive for somebody and negative for somebody else. Also, the issue of you being a pro-Islam (or pro-Islamism) pov pusher and doing edit warring and/or censorship on wikiquote was raised for example here [2] [3] [4] [5]. I don't see the point in continuing this discussion with a user twice confirmed for abusive sockpuppetry, meatpuppetry, and a history of harassment, intimidation and edit-warring. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 21:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Kalki, BD2412, UDScott and Jusjih: these recent discussions have similarities with the discussions that took place in Wikiquote:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive/032 between Jedi3 and MonsterHunter32. Rupert Loup 22:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

A few notes:

1. There are no local Checkusers on Wikiquote; you will have to request intervention from a global checkuser or a steward if you have a real sockpuppetry issue.
2. Nobody is in the right here. It's best to sort things out and understand perspectives rather than jumping to conclusions, however I will confirm that Pratap has a pro-Islam POV which I've noticed, but this shouldn't be cause for an outright block. Any POV pushing should be stopped immediately - but you shouldn't come down on them like a pile of bricks. dibbydib^⌐■_■ (barate me) 01:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Well, they already reported it there. And this link which was provided here by დამოკიდებულება proves that this is just a continuation of that old conflict. I hope that a resolution can be finallly achived now. Here are some archives in the pages of the admins during the Jedi3 vs MonsterHunter32 conflict:

• UDScott's talk page: [6], [7]
• Kalki's talk page: [8]
• BD2412's talk page: [9], [10]

Rupert Loup 18:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

• I'm sorry that I've been aloof recently and have not been able to catch up on the significant amount of required reading to help to mediate this conflict. I continue to think that we need to reinstate local CUs on this project. Unfortunately, according to meta policy, that requires at least two CU candidates that can get 25 supports from the community, and it's rare that an RfA or RfB on WQ gets more than ten votes in total. My own RfB got all of five !votes over five or six months. I continue to believe that the meta policy in this regard hamstrings small projects from being able to be self governing. GMG^talk 15:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Expired VfDs

Can an admin plese close the VfDs Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Neethi P., Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Mekhala Krishnamurthy and Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Armin Rosencranz? Rupert Loup 18:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Y Done and I cleaned up a few more. There is at least one old one that remains disposition, but it is one that I opened. Perhaps one of the other admins could take care of it (as well as archiving, once they have reviewed what I did). ~ UDScott (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

173.77.215.131

173.77.215.131 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

It belittled me even though it clearly violated protocol repeatedly. DawgDeputy (talk) 03:29, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ningauble: @GreenMeansGo: @UDScott: @Kalki: @Koavf:

And now it is at it again. Please take serious action against it, and strike its edit summaries. DawgDeputy (talk) 13:02, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

User:დამოკიდებულება

• დამოკიდებულება (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
• 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India (history • watch)

• 2020 Palghar mob lynching (history • watch)

First, Can this editor add an English name in their signature, so that it is easier to communicate in English language, instead of copy pasting every time. Communicating with fellow editors should not be made difficult by adding non English text, not supported by English Keyboards. As GMG said, this is allowed here so striking this part. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 12:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Second, on 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India this user has been adding massive amount of non notable content from the site Wire and propaganda sites like MEMRI, [11] that are also blatant copyright violations, on political topics related to India. He has restored the copyright violation which I have removed again, as I understand that Copyright violations should not be restored as they are serious offences with potential legal consequences, yet this user is re-adding the copyrighted content and in doing so, is accusing me of edit warring. The dispute related to the content is being discussed on the talk page of these two articles. I have challenged some of his edits and in retaliation, a report has been made on VP by this user against me. This user's behavior on other articles should also be checked in light of these findings of CopyVios.

Third, on 2020 Palghar mob lynching this user has added non notable libelous and defamatory comments by a controversial TV anchor named Arnab Goswami. (Goswami has been sued in India for his baseless and defamatory comment) No justification was given when I challenged the addition of those comment as a quote on the article. I had removed this libelous comment from the article and had mentioned in the edit summary that said "Notable: We limit ourselves to quotations which are notable. A quotation can be notable because it has achieved fame due to its enduring relevance to many people. This is not the case here". But this user resorted to restoring the libel blatantly edit warring without first making consensus on why the addition of this libelous content is justified on the said article. On top of that this user called my good faith edits as vandalism (a personal attack). This user re-added the content and in doing so is accusing me of edit warring. The blatant use of non-notable quotes that are also polemics by this editor on Wikiquote need an investigation by Admins.--Pratap Pandit (talk) 21:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@Pratap Pandit: I've made a thread on the village pump. Don't cry wolf to an administrator, this is not a vandal. You both are in a content dispute and I advise you both not to edit war against each other. Adminstrators, please refer to the VP thread for additional info. dibbydib^⌐■_■ (barate me) 22:53, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

This was a content dispute, if was you who advised the other user on my talk page to escalate this to Village pump. I posted there, and Butwhatdoiknow asked to move to WQ:AN. Then you accuse me of crying wolf for follwing your advice? Great!. Where did I call him a vandal ? I never called him or anyone vandal, in fact this user called my good faith edits as vandalism. Butwhatdoiknow asked me to move this thread to this noticeboard from VP. Now you want to move this to VP. Why dont you (Dibbydib) and Butwhatdoiknow discuss among yourselves first before telling me where to take this ? Yes there are content disputes and those are being discussed on the article talk. This thread here is to address the behavior problems of this user and it is not related to only these 2 pages. He is doing the same on all the pages of Wikiquote. So this thread should reach its conclusion on its own merits. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 08:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Pratap Pandit: I've made a thread where I additionally talked to დამოკიდებულება. Can you explain your block on enwiki? dibbydib^⌐■_■ (barate me) 08:43, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

You can continue creating your threads. The behavior problems raised about User:დამოკიდებულება still needs to be addressed here and they are not just related to these 2 articles. If you think I am doing something that violates Wikiquote policies here, then please start another thread with evidence, so that I can respond there. This thread is for User:დამოკიდებულება. Do not hijack all my threads trying to belittle me. I have raised valid concerns and an admin should review them on their merits. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 09:17, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• User:დამოკიდებულება is hounding me and now followed my edits and reverted me on another article Narendra Modi
• User:დამოკიდებულება has reverted me here, after which I started the discussion on the talk page.
• User:დამოკიდებულება again resorted to edit warring by re-adding the disputed content without concluding the talk page discussion first. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 10:02, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• Using polemic and unpopular quotes Propaganda Sites"

This user is using propaganda sites like MEMRI. Media Bias Fact Check says about MEMRI. "we rate MEMRI a Questionable source based on promotion of Israeli propaganda, poor sourcing and a few failed fact checks.". If a propaganda site is all this user can find to support a random comment on the internet then that is a good indication of that random quote not meeting the criteria to be included on Wikiquote. On being challenged to establish why those quotes merit an inclusion into Wikiquote, this used failed to give any justification saying it is impossible and then using offensive comments like "This is so elementary that every school kid could grasp it." --Pratap Pandit (talk) 11:02, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

In addition to what was already said by me and others about this "argument", which I will not repeat now, MEMRI is quoted across wikiquote at dozens of articles. Of course, similar NGOs are quoted across wikiquote as well --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 11:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• Note Thankfully administrator GMG has removed the copyright violations from "2020 coronavirus pandemic in India over which this User:დამოკიდებულება was edit warring on the page. In the edit summary GMG had said, " This reprints literally the entire article word-for-word. So yes, this is a copyright violation. Please do not restore. " GMG's statement confirms that I was right in calling it out as COPYVIO and removing it.- --Pratap Pandit (talk) 13:11, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Using multiple accounts to edit same articles

1. Nwalker3 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
2. Jedi3 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log) Talk Archive 1, 2 3, 4 (Blocked thrice and interaction banned in April 2018)
3. Luke Jedi Skywalker (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log) started on 17 May 2018 while ban was still in place
4. ΞΔΞ (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
5. დამოკიდებულება (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)
6. დამოკიდებუილება2 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

All these accounts have similar edit pattern on the same pages. See the following links of the same articles edited by all these accounts. [12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20] --Pratap Pandit (talk) 01:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

• Jedi3 was blocked thrice in April 2018 for Continued edit warring and Intimidating behaviour/harassment. Last block on 21 April. And an interaction ban was placed on 22 April. Last edit on 26 April 2018.
• Luke Jedi Skywalker was started on 17 May 2018
• Similar customized reminders [21], [22], [23]
• All these users have been making copyright violations by copying huge amount of text to articles and were warned [24], [25]
• Copying large amount of text from author Koenraad Elst [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33] --Pratap Pandit (talk) 03:10, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they aren't the person. Jedi3 stopped editing at April 2018, Luke Jedi Skywalker in October 2018, ΞΔΞ in January 2020, and Nwalker3 in May 2017. dibbydib^⌐■_■ (barate me) 08:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

How does that prove that they are not same users ? He creates new account to evade blocks and scrutiny. The diffs speak for themselves, I can add more diffs if needed, but I feel these are enough. Let an admin with "special capabilities" of looking at it from a neutral perspective respond. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 10:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

As in a CheckUser? Dibbysock (talk) 11:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

That user was only blocked and IB'd for 30 days. And even after the ban was lifted, Jedi3 has not been editing since. DawgDeputy (talk) 12:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

• This user was blocked and interaction banned. He returned with new account, while his interaction ban was in place, to edit the same topics, clearly to circumvent the scrutiny. He continues to do this, with the same problems of copyright violations, edit-warring, intimidation and harassment for which he was previously blocked. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 12:32, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

There was no sockpuppet investigation concerning those users. DawgDeputy (talk) 14:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

To be clear, we don't have local CheckUsers, so if there is some substantive allegation of sockpuppetry that should be investigated, you have to go to m:Stewards. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

ok. Also all socks use the same authors and sources on similar topics:

• Koenraad Elst, Decolonizing the Hindu mind - [34] [35] [36] [37]
• The case of anti-muslim political propaganda on Wikiquote was raised here (account: ΞΔΞ is mentioned)
• Kishori Saran Lal, The Muslim Slave System in Medieval India - [38] [39] [40].
• Sita Ram Goel, The Calcutta Quran Petition - [41] [42] [43]
• Robert Spencer, The history of Jihad: From Muhammad to ISIS - [44] [45]
• Bharatvani.org - [46] [47] [48] [49] --Pratap Pandit (talk) 19:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

• The m:Steward found the accounts stale, and has asked for the the behavior changes to be discussed here. So requesting the admins to take a look at this disruption. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 19:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

• Quoting what @Xsaorapa: mentioned in the thread below. "for years now, Jedi3 (user:დამოკიდებულება) has been adding a massive amount of quotes (mainly from Hindu nationalists) to push a political agenda on every Islam/Hinduism/India-related page and even unrelated. There was a case where an user was blocked indefinitely from Wikiquote for "Pro-Russian/anti-American POV". I don't see much difference in what this user has been doing all this time, despite the fact that this issue was raised before."
• The primary issue here is the mass spamming of WQ articles by დამოკიდებულება (and its older socks) non notable quotes that are often copyright violations.
• To hide his disruption, he keeps creating new account every few months, and he is planning to abandon დამოკიდებულება and start a new one now. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 09:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

• This needs to be considered in light of new evidence below. --Pratap Pandit (talk) 00:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

All indefinitely blocked. The account User:დამოკიდებულება has talk page access to explain himself. Very compelling evidence of widespread sockpuppetry. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:33, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

OTRS complaint on copyright of several Wikiquote pages

Dear administrators,

the OTRS received a complaint about copyright of several Wikiquote pages. With the express permission of the sender, I publish their letter in verbatim. I would like to ask Wikiquote administrators to review those cases. Best, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Dear Wikiquote,

We wanted to notificate you that copyright infringement has been located on your online compendium.

Here are the following links (with the list of the works in question) where copyright violations have been located:

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ishwar_Sharan
The Myth of Saint Thomas and the Mylapore Shiva Temple. Third edition. 2010. Fourth Edition, 2019. Ishwar Sharan.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ram_Swarup
Hindu View of Christianity and Islam (1992) Voice of India. Ram Swarup
On Hinduism: Reviews and Reflections (2000) Voice of India. Ram Swarup 

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Arun_Shourie
The World of Fatwas (Or The Shariah In Action), (1995) New Delhi : ASA Publications, Arun Shourie
Eminent Historians: Their Technology, Their Line, Their Fraud (1998) ASA; 1 edition, Arun Shourie
Hindu temples: What happened to them (Volume I), (1993). Arun Shourie

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/K._S._Lal
Indian Muslims: Who Are They (1990). Voice of India.  K. S. Lal
The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India (1992). New Delhi : Aditya Prakashan. K. S. Lal 
Theory and Practice of Muslim State in India (1999). New Delhi : Aditya Prakashan. K. S. Lal

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Koenraad_Elst
Negationism in India: concealing the record of Islam (1992), Voice of India  K. Elst
Update on the Aryan Invasion Debate, (1999). Aditya Prakashan; 1 edition. K. Elst
The Argumentative Hindu: Essays by a Non-Affiliated Orientalist (2012). Aditya Prakashan. K. Elst
Ayodhya: The Case Against the Temple (2002). Voice of India. K. Elst

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sita_Ram_Goel
Hindu Society under Siege (1981, revised 1992) S. R. Goel
Defence of Hindu Society (1983) Voice of India; 3rd enl. ed edition. S. R. Goel
Muslim Separatism – Causes and Consequences (1987) S. R. Goel
The Calcutta Quran Petition (1986) New Delhi : Voice of India S. R. Goel
Hindu Temples – What Happened to Them, Volume II (1993) S. R. Goel
The Story of Islamic Imperialism in India (1994) New Delhi : Voice of India. S. R. Goel
History of Hindu-Christian Encounters (1996) Voice of India. S. R. Goel

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Shah_Waliullah_Dehlawi
Muslim separatism: Causes and consequences (1995). Voice of India, Second Edition. S. R. Goel
The History of Jihad: From Muhammad to ISIS. (2018) Bombardier Books. Robert B. Spencer
Shãh Walîullah Dehlvî ke Siyãsî Maktûbãt (1969), Second Edition, Delhi. K. A. Nizami

Inserted by --Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

It is obvious that this sender is none other than Xsaorapa (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log) , the same user who

1. was using a sock SPA to give meatpuppet instructions to Pratap Pandit.
2. and who pulled the same sock trick already previously, using abusive sockpuppetry on wikiquote
3. has a history of personal attacks, harassment, hounding, stalking, intimidation and edit-warring, and of spreading false and misleading claims and outright lies
4. has a history of censorship on wikiquote : [50] [51] [52] [53]
   1. "Xsaorapa is engaging in censorship of quotes critical of Islam"
   2. "(Xsaorapa is) removing quotes in a camouflaged way, and removing them again by giving false reasons even after they are restored by another editor, amounts to vandalism"
   3. " He is removing quotes based not on whether they are too long but on whether they are critical of Islam. That's clear for everyone to see. And it is unacceptable. "

And now he is trolling OTRS. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 12:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

User Pratap Pandit was making the same claims (it has been confirmed that Pratap has been acting as a meatpuppet of Xsaorapa, using a sock). And I already told Pratap many times that he needs to produce proof and evidence for his claims. Mass-templating articles without any credible proof or evidence is just part of the larger harassment, hounding and stalking of the user.

A few more points: I read somewhere on wikiquote that about 1.5 percent of a work is fair use. I have not seen any credible proof or evidence that more is quoted in any of these cases (some of these books are works with over 700 pages). In the last item (Shah_Waliullah_Dehlawi) books by other authors are listed, who are themselves quoting Shah Waliullah Dehlawi. If they can quote Shah_Waliullah_Dehlawi, so should we. And for the record, some of these authors have expressed opinions of anti-copyright sentiment and have allowed the publication of their works on Archive.org and other websites. The first book in the list is available "to the public under the Creative Commons License Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0)." This is the same case as in the article Nissim Mannathukkaren, which was tagged by Pratap as a copyright violation even though it is not a copyright violation because the source was released under CC BY-NC. And about four of these authors are dead : Shah Waliullah Dehlawi died in 1762. This is another of the user's frivolous, false and misleading claims. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

დამოკიდებულება (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log) (and his older socks) has been adding a massive amount of material from copyrighted works in a way that is clearly a copyright violation. [54], [55], [56], [57], [58]

• This user also keeps creating a new sock every few months to hide his disruption and deceive other contributors.[59]
• He has already been blocked in the past (with his old sock Jedi3) for edit-warring, intimidation and harassment.
• He was denounced several times by other users for promoting a right-wing/anti-muslim/anti-christian political agenda on Wikiquote:

1. BD2412, User:Jedi3's sole purpose in his edits has been POV-pushing to spread hatred against non-Hindu religions even if his quotes are not memorable. This is why nearly all of his quotes are crtical against Muslims, Christians, and their religions. Please be careful of his intentions and edits. [60]
2. "What I do know is that sister links from en-WP Indic articles to content here that contains a lot of stuff by Elst may well be rejected. He has his place, sure, just as quotes by Hitler or Lenin etc have their place, but the sheer number of examples I've seen here added by ΞΔΞ in particular seem, wittingly or unwittingly, to be essentially a propaganda exercise. [61] ... I'd be surprised if the WMF would appreciate the concept of neutrality/not censored being extended to the point of actively promoting an Islamophobic POV or similar, which is what seems to be happening, whether by design or accident. " [62]
3. "This user has been adding lots of statements as quotes to his political opponent's pages ... he is using wiki quotes as a tool to spread the message of RSS, an Indian right-wing, Hindu nationalist, paramilitary volunteer organisation. The user is also using this site to promote his hatred against other religions as well." [63]
4. "On 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India this user has been adding massive amount of non notable content from propaganda sites like MEMRI, that are also copyright violations, on political topics related to India. ... The blatant use of non notable polemics by this editor on Wikiquote need an investigation by Admins." [64]

--Xsaorapa (talk) 05:02, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

When every line is an outright lie, misleading or false claim, or a personal attack, I'm not wasting my time continuing this discussion, especially when Xsaorapa has just hours ago trolled OTRS with a fake claim, has just days ago used abusive sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry across wikiquote, and has a history of personal attacks, harassment, hounding, stalking, intimidation and edit-warring, and of spreading false and misleading claims and outright lies. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 08:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't believe that Pratap and Xsaorapa are connected however I'll look through both of their behaviour on Wikiquote later. You might need to request a SPI at meta if you're looking for that. dibbydib^⌐■_■ (barate me) 01:02, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Dibbydib, I didn't check this page and missed your comment. Please see my comment here. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 11:44, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I happened to see the underlying OTRS ticket and was curious about this. I recognize there is some sort of conflict between two users here, but do any administrators want to actually weigh in on the underlying claims? User:koavf? It seems odd to me to be quoting an author's note, for instance. Emufarmers (talk) 07:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Emufarmers: If you're willing to share your email address with me, then please send me a message. Not sure how revelatory it will be but I'm happy to discuss. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:11, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The author's note is a kind of introduction chapter in this book. I partly agree and am going to trim the quote from it, and partly disagree since one of the two quotes is interesting. This book is available "to the public under the Creative Commons License Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0)." This is the same case as in the article Nissim Mannathukkaren, which was tagged by Pratap as a copyright violation even though it is not a copyright violation because the source was released under CC BY-NC.

The underlying issue here is that Xsaorapa fake OTRS claim was not done in good faith, but is part of a history of personal attacks, harassment, hounding, stalking and intimidation and of spreading false and misleading claims and outright lies.

Here is a timeline of the past few days:

1. On 16 May, Xsaorapa started giving meatpuppet instructions to User Pratap Pandit by using his sockpuppet User Sunfee over email and/or little used talkpages
2. On 18 May, Pratap started mass templating articles edited by me or other users, which other users have called harassment. The first case was at Talk:Rajendran Narayanan.
3. On 27 May, the meatpuppetry and sockpuppetry got exposed
4. On 5 June, the meatpuppet master (Xsaorapa) took over from Pratap and started exactly the same mass templating that his meatpuppet Pratap did just some days before
5. On 7 June, Xsaorapa trolls OTRS with a fake OTRS claim

This is just plain harassment and intimidation.

I have commented to the issue earlier also. Nevertheless, if there is a good faith concern about this issue by you or someone else, I will look again into it. --დამოკიდებუილება2 (talk) 10:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Y Done I have removed one of the two quotes that were flagged for review. The second quote I left because it is an interesting quote. --დამოკიდებუილება2 (talk) 11:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: @Koavf: @Emufarmers:

See how Voice of India (VOI) (a Hindutva front) publications [65], [66] have been disseminated on Wikiquote by this user for propagandistic purposes:

• 67 results with quoted material from the book Muslim slave system in medieval India [67]
• 71 results with quoted material from the book Update on the Aryan Invasion Debate [68]
• 72 results with quoted material from the book The Story of Islamic Imperialism in India [69]
• 85 results with quoted material from the book Hindu temples: What happened to them [70]
• 103 results with quoted material from the book The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India [71]
• 123 results with quoted material from the book Decolonizing the Hindu mind [72], this one was not published by VOI but still from one of their major author (Koenraad Elst)

The majority of the pages showed in these results have been created and/or mainly edited by the same group of socks (Jedi3, Luke Jedi Skywalker, ΞΔΞ, დამოკიდებულება) [73]. Notice that most of the quotations added in these pages are taken from authors that were published by and/or associated with VOI (Sita Ram Goel, Ram Swarup, K. Elst, Kishori Saran Lal, Arun Shourie...) It's obvious that the sole purpose of these pages is to serve as a relay for VOI propaganda.

Here are a few examples:

• Historical negationism created by Jedi3 [74]: about 8 quotes taken from Arun Shourie's book - 4 from S. R. Goel - 3 from K. Elst - 3 from K. S Lal
• Censorship in India created by Jedi3 [75]: about 10 quotes taken from K. Elst's books - 7 from S. R. Goel - 4 from Arun Shourie - 2 from K. S Lal
• Secularism in India created by Jedi3 [76]: about 18 quotes taken from K. Elst's books - 12 from S. R. Goel
• Slavery in India created by Jedi3 [77]: about 30 quotes are taken from K. S Lal's books
• Medieval India created by Luke Jedi Skywalker [78]: about 6 quotes taken from K. S Lal's books
• Communalism created by Luke Jedi Skywalker [79]: about 10 quotes taken from K. Elst's books, 2 from S. R. Goel
• Ayodhya firing incident created by ΞΔΞ [80]: about 6 quotes taken from K. S Lal's books
• Triple talaq in India created by ΞΔΞ [81]: about 6 quotes taken from Arun Shourie's books
• John Dayal created by დამოკიდებულება [82]: about 4 quotes taken from K. Elst's books

--Xsaorapa (talk) 16:51, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

This obsessive and blatant McCarthyism seems obviouly motivated by desire of censorship of quotes critical of Islamism or sympathetic to Hinduism as observed previously [83] [84] [85] [86] None of your wall of text has any concrete issue about any concrete specific quote. And again every line is a lie, misleading or false claim, or a personal attack, and this comes after he has trolled OTRS with a fake claim, has just days ago used abusive sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry across wikiquote, and has a history of personal attacks, harassment, hounding, stalking, intimidation and edit-warring, and of spreading false and misleading claims and outright lies. To point out the obvious, the list includes eminent historians like KS Lal and notable scholars like Shourie or Elst, who are known for their witty writing style (which translates into quotable). Also the vast majority of these are indirect citations from books of the authors (for example, Elliot and Dowson's History quoted from KS Lal) and not even direct quotes of the authors, and not all of the quotes of these authors were added by me. They are also not Hindutva, none of these authors are members of any Hindutva organization (with the exception of Shourie who once was a member of BJP (the largest political party of India) but is nowadays a vocal critic of BJP and the Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi). They are only falsely characterized as such by people with a political axe to grind. Saying that another user added quotes for propaganda is a personal attack. I add quote as I come across them. But as a matter of fact I have added quotes from a vast diversity of authors, with a vast diversity of views and pov's and many of them without any particular political pov. And as another user once told you, I've actually accepted long ago that the price I pay for standing in the way of vandals and trolls is being occasionally (by these, persistently) defamed in public and portrayed in the worst possible light; it "comes with the territory". Normally I wouldn't even reply when each line is a personal attack, outright lie or misleading claim as is the case here. --დამოკიდებუილება2 (talk) 20:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Suppress please

Please suppress edit summary. And all of this. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Drmies: stewards have done so. Praxidicae (talk) 18:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Just saw this - but we need to remind stewards that they should also likely hide the username in cases like this. ~ UDScott (talk) 19:40, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Revdel/deletion requests

Can someone revdel all the defamatory IP edits from May 21-22 on Edward de Bono and Alexander Pope, including the defamatory edit summaries? And can someone also delete User talk:190.72.168.122 which suggests something bad about the same person?

Y Done Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:37, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

There were proxy IPs involved in the same edit wars that are still there and one more by the main 96.238.130.65 in a row from another as well as two edit summaries by the IP 108.17.71.32 which was otherwise reverting the bad edits.

I can't understand you. Please make a list of the diffs that are outstanding to remove or to a user's contributions. I think I have them all now. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

These ones:

• https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.234.151.228
• https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/197.251.240.223
• https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/190.72.168.122
• https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/186.91.240.166

And these edit summaries:

• https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Alexander_Pope&oldid=2798378
• https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_de_Bono&oldid=2798348

Y Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Problematic IP (likely a sockpuppet...)

2601:240:4180:6A50:6940:A401:458B:539C (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

Adds nonsense categories to certain series (most of which have no solid evidence of official cancellation). Apparently a sockpuppet of blocked problematic IP 98.214.101.235 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log). Same MO, same editing patterns, etc. I request immediate action be taken against it. DawgDeputy (talk) 23:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Ugh. Again? Y Done. Thanks, DD. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

And now yet another sockpuppet is afoot:

2601:240:4180:6A50:4939:AA83:4CA2:E97D‎ (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log) Not only must this sockpuppet be blocked, but all pages it vandalized be protected against these vandals indefinitely. DawgDeputy (talk) 19:49, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Y Done Thanks again. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:59, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Analog computer virvs

Analog computer virvs (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

Falsely accuses a random IP address of being a "spectrum" editor without any evidence. That is attacking/belittling. Clearly a sockpuppet. I request this user be blocked infinitely, and any edits it made be struck, including the false warning it left on my talk page. DawgDeputy (talk) 11:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Y Done by someone else. @DawgDeputy: what is the proof of being a sock? If it's a sock account, I'll block indefinitely or raise to a steward for a global lock. Otherwise, he's just a bigot who wrote some garbage but could participate someday. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, there are the following accounts it used before:

67.百七十.192.231 (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

WikiLumber (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

2603:3024:1DDE:0:94D8:344:5456:13EF (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

And there are a bunch more, but these are all we need. Same MO, same level of bigotry, etc. DawgDeputy (talk) 11:37, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Dibbydib continues violating copyright licensing requirements of attribution despite being asked to not do it

Dibbydib (talk • contribs • global edits • page moves • block user • block log)

Dibbydib has been violating copyright licensing requirements of attributions while copying content into Wikiquote. Example is this page that Dibbydib created was copied from here without providing any credits as mandated by CC Terms, while copying. I raised it 2 weeks back and in response, he claims in his reply that this copying without attribution is allowed, thereby explaining he neither understands these requirements nor has intentions to comply with these requirements. These are not optional.

SInce then he has created another bunch of templates copying from wikipedia. eg. here [87] [88] and continues to copy without attribution. This is a failure of basic copyright policy requirement from an editor and repeated violation needs admin attention . --Pratap Pandit (talk) 00:33, 20 June 2020 (UTC)