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Scrub please[edit]

[1]. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 6 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry. I've been in and out. But it looks like someone else took care of it. GMGtalk 01:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This user clearly is not here to build an encyclopedia. Cheers! Nadzik (talk) 14:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Y Done GMGtalk 13:37, 23 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Recruitment for WMF study on patrollers[edit]

Hello GreenMeansGo,

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently conducting a study on how patrollers interact with IP address edits, and what kinds of IP information are most useful to patrollers. I noticed that you're active in anti-vandalism work on English Wikiquote, and would like to invite you to do an interview with us. It should take no longer than 30 minutes. If you're interested, please contact me via email, Thank you for your time! CLo (WMF) (talk) 16:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Friendly letter recommodation[edit]

Hy thr i saw you reviewed my edit im nt angry i'd like to ask for some advice on wikiquote if you would please i wanna do it personal my number is [redacted] can you send me info on that number please Angie williamz (talk) 02:51, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Angie williamz: generally you shouldn't be posting phone numbers publically like that. I have hidden it in the history, and suggest emailing GreenMeansGo using the "Email this user" feature if you want to discuss something privately. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok thanks for the advice Angie williamz (talk) 03:24, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I reverted your edit because you changed the text of the tag line for the movie. Quotes are just that. We don't edit them or update them to make them more agreeable. GMGtalk 10:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I don't know what these two users are up to but it's nothing good. Please consider a block: Special:Contributions/, Special:Contributions/Manasvip, Special:Contributions/Ashank07. Praxidicae (talk) 17:54, 6 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Look like UDScott has already obliged us. GMGtalk 17:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Thanks - that was my inclination as well, but I had already speedy deleted it a couple of times and wanted at least someone neutral to look at it. Thanks for pulling the trigger. ~ UDScott (talk) 12:29, 31 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm glad you agree. It at least made intuitive sense to me. If I made a mainspace page for GreenMeansGo including all my favorite quotes from Mick Jagger, it would kindof seem to make sense that "no quote" means no quotes specifically from the subject of the article. GMGtalk 12:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Swati Maliwal[edit]

Hello, I saw you deleted this page Swati Maliwal. I was looking for her quotes over the internet. This was my first page on Wikiquotes. I am supposed to make mistakes. But, at least you should've waited for a day. I didn't know how to move it to Draftspace or to userspace as we can do so on Wikipedia. Lightbluerain (talk) 12:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey @Lightbluerain:. It's perfectly fine to have works in progress, but new pages should include at least one quote. If you're having difficulty finding at least a single sourceable quote, then the subject may not be appropriate for a Wikiquote article. GMGtalk 15:49, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
She is a very notable personality in India. Check her Wikipedia Page. I just being new don't know what type of Quotes? What type of references, etc.? would go. That's why I was taking time. Should I make the page again now? Lightbluerain (talk) 18:19, 25 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lightbluerain: You're more than welcome to make a page. It's just a standard that has been adopted over time that we ought to be prepared with at least one sourced quote before we do so. GMGtalk 12:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright, thanks. I'll take care from now on. Lightbluerain (talk) 19:32, 27 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lightbluerain: I'll be travelling internationally for the next little bit, but if I can ever be of any help at all feel free to stop by. I may not be prompt, but I'll be happy to help any way I can. GMGtalk 21:38, 27 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks a lot. Sure.Lightbluerain (talk) 18:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello, why can we not use YouTube links in sources? They give good source for statements, like the TEDx Talks and news reports. Also, is there any tool to add sources here as we have on Wikipedia? I can't find it; I doubt the source format I am currently using. Thanks in advance. Lightbluerain (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Lightbluerain: We generally don't allow primary sources for quotes about living people, as it allows...a great deal of leeway for individual editors to selectively quote things that happen to fit their particular point of view, especially when these are taken out of context. Personally, on any topic, I tend to add quotes as they are quoted in secondary sources, like newspapers, books or magazines. It kindof takes you as an individual out of the equation. Somebody already quoted it exactly as you are quoting it. We're not (at least in my opinion) really supposed to be creating anything. We're just curating and organizing it.
As to the sourcing tool, no. We do not currently have that imported to this project. I normally open my sandbox on Wikipedia, use the tool, and then copy/paste the wikitext. I'm afraid that while I have the technical access to import this tool, I do not have the technical expertise. GMGtalk 02:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright, thanks. Lightbluerain (talk) 12:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A Swallow Is Back[edit]

Reviewing the newly archived application page, reading your thoughtful comment, a proverb his me: one swallow does not a summer make. Instead of lengthy requesting comment of mine, I'd have liked to cite it from Nicomachean Ethics. Thank you for reminding me on that line, however, it's my great regret I then forgot it completely :( Apparently I need more rehabilitation. --Aphaia (talk) 14:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No worries. Try hard. Do well. That's all that is expected of any of us. GMGtalk 15:28, 5 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New user needs help[edit]

Hi I am new on Wikiquotes and I need help navigating through the platform. I need someone to teach me a few things. Do you think you can help? I am an experienced Wikipedia editor and I am confident i learn pretty fast.

P.S I am think of a online meeting on Zoom or Google meet. I just need to know the basics e.g notability. Prithee P (talk) 10:45, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We actually have our own standard, which is WQ:QUOTABILITY, rather than notability. Of course, a highly notable person is more likely to be quotable (and it would require unusual circumstances for us to include quotes from someone not notable enough to merit a Wikipedia article). BD2412 T 19:22, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
An online meeting can be a good idea, last year we already did something like this on the Italian Wikiquote. --Spinoziano (talk) 06:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Could be a cool idea if there's enough interest. Maybe even a quarterly or monthly thing. GMGtalk 12:38, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I know that Superchilum and Camelia.boban wanted to do it in English too, and this year I am willing to appear too. If we repeat SheSaid next month, I hope it might be of interest to Prithee P too. --Spinoziano (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, we will repeat #SheSaid next month, so I'am available for a online meeting. Here is the webinar we did with WikiDonne (in English, & in Italian). --Camelia.boban (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you all for your responses. @Spinoziano:, I know about the #Shesaid project and I am interested. I can run one here in my country. We can recruit new editors to Wiki quotes especially people interested in bridging the gender gap. Template:Replyto I have sent you a message on IG. Hope that is fine? I will also send you an email. I will looking forward to the online meeting. Thank you. P.s Thank you for adding the video link. Prithee P (talk) 00:10, 22 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi! Thank you for involving me :-) unfortunately in November I will go to an expedition to Antarctica until the end of February, so I will not be available. I can help with some stuff until my departure, but not so much since I have a lot of things to deal with :-) anyway, if you need anything, try to ask me and I'll do what I can. Bye! --Superchilum (talk) 06:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

covid vaccine / miscarriage[edit]

Hi GreenMeansGo

What is your opinion of this edit:

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ottawahitech: It looks like a fairly poor quality source from a non notable writer, that takes a study saying "we find no adverse effects" and then figuring out how to do their own amateur math to reach the opposite conclusion of the study itself. Besides that, it's not particularly pithy or quotable. It's just a statistic, even if it wasn't an apparently badly calculated one. GMGtalk 13:44, 29 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

COVID-19 vaccine[edit]

Hi GreenMeansGo

The article COVID-19 vaccine has gotten a few updates with souces I am not familiar with on October 8. Can you please check if the edits are legitimate? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 20:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Just looking it over, still looks like it could use quite a bit of cleanup. Still quotes that are really just bare statistics. Quotes to quite low quality sources. Vox Populi, which seems to just be a personal blog. Substack, which is pretty much just a blog also. Direct quotes from Twitter, some by apparently non-notable people, others that can't be described as a quote at all, like Jimmy Wales just sharing a link. Sputnik, which is really just a state propaganda outlet. Some over quoting, like paragraphs of quotes from Nature.
I haven't looked to sort of exactly who added what, but it's probably safe to say a fair bit of content has been added to prove a point, and not for being high quality quotations from notable people or works. GMGtalk 12:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category Activist stubs question[edit]

Hi GreenMeansGo,

On 6 January 2019 you created a Category:Activists stubs which currently has only two pages in it, even though Category:Category:Activist stubs had been in existence for two years. Just wondering if this was an oversight or something deeper? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Probably just a typo on my part. GMGtalk 12:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How we will see unregistered users[edit]


You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.

We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

GreenMeansGo and wikidata? You deleted the page but could you solve the problem? Thank you 12:05, 12 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RfA close[edit]

I have no objection to your closing the discussion, but I did have an eye on it to do so today. BD2412 T 06:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @BD2412: Sorry if I got in your way. I just know we've had quite a few in the past that have languished for a bit. Given the level of disruption around this one in particular, it seemed prudent to wrap things up. I didn't expect much objection given that only one regular user opposed. But if you think it will be wiser, please feel free to reclose as someone completely uninvolved.
Maybe it's not a bad idea to draw lots and assign one of us to sit out an RfA and be the designated closer. GMGtalk 11:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think it's an issue, but I went ahead and reclosed just to avoid any question. Cheers! BD2412 T 20:16, 2 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Trusted List[edit]

The page was not a test page, can you please reinstate it? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 22:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Ilovemydoodle: You are free to keep personal lists in your user space, as you have created already. However, these are not appropriate for public-facing name spaces like template space. GMGtalk 22:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Then, can you please give me the source of the deleted page? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 22:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It is the same as the list on your user page that you can access by clicking the hyperlink on your name. GMGtalk 22:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The list on my name used that template and no longer works now that that page was deleted. – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 22:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Koavf Could you give me the source of that page? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 02:06, 18 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It's generally just a commonly recognized divide across projects. It can be confusing for readers if we unexpectedly delve them into internal dialogue. GMGtalk 13:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey there![edit]

Why did you delete my page, I created how the article says "what if 2020 was a person?" I added many details, but somehow, you deleted it for no reason. Thank you if you explain this. -- 18:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey anon. Wikiquote only hosts pages on subjects that are considered notable, usually meaning that they have been widely covered in published sources. Often a good measure of this is whether they have an article over on Wikipedia. It seems highly doubtful that the question of "what if 2020 was a person" has been the subject of significant published sources, and one-off references to YouTube videos don't really count toward that. GMGtalk 18:55, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, the text isn't real, I added information that "what if 2020 was a person" I made the information by myself, and since there are no reliable sources, I used links and blog posts to support hose sources. Apologies, but my article I created was not meant to be taken seriously, it was made humorous and too entertaining . I inserted fun into those edits to entertain the readers and viewers. And I added trivia and different plots in order to use imagination. Thank you! 18:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We also don't host original content purely for entertainment purposes. I'm afraid you will have to keep that to social media, blogs and the like. GMGtalk 19:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can you explain why this wiki not host original content for entertainment purposes? 19:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's just isn't within the established scope of the project. We're intended to be a collection of educationally useful quotes on broadly important subjects. It's a bit like asking why Instagram isn't for sharing software and short stories. It just isn't. There are places beside Instagram which are for those other things. GMGtalk 19:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, why Wikiquotes aren't a crystal ball? What if 2020 came to your house? What would you do? 15:48, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It did come to my house. GMGtalk 15:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Explain why it is not a crystal ball? 16:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Because you can't cite sources that don't yet exist. It's a reference to fortune telling. GMGtalk 19:31, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Admin accountability poll[edit]

Admin accountability poll is open, vote here. – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 10:05, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Block backlog[edit]

@GreenMeansGo: Could you please fix the backlog of block requests? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:38, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Could you please make WQT a namespace? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 10:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Namespaces are part of the software. GMGtalk 11:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Could you ask on Phab? (I can't for complicated reasons). – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Why? Even if I did, it would probably be ignored because there doesn't seem to be any justification for the request. GMGtalk 11:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It’s very useful for shortcuts. – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:52, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    That's not really a justification. The volunteers on Phab are not going to commit to creating an entirely new namespace so a few users on a small project can occasionally save a few keystrokes. GMGtalk 11:54, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Why can’t it be added just for Wikiquote? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 11:55, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It doesn't really matter one way or the other. Making some redirects isn't a justification for creating an entirely new namespace. GMGtalk 12:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Well, WP exists on Wikipedia and WQ exists on Wikiquote. – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 12:04, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    "WP" isn't a namespace. It's a namespace alias. The Wikiquote talk namespace exists. That's why you can access Wikiquote talk:Administrators' noticeboard. Talk spaces are automatically created for all namespaces other than...ummm...virtual spaces like Special. Aliases are just...kindof like project wide automatic redirects. But project talk space here is so exceedingly rarely used it would take decades to recoup the effort put into getting someone to make a project talk alias. GMGtalk 12:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I would like "WQT:" to be an alias for "Template:". - Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 12:23, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Honestly, I'm not really concerned about that either. There's something like 150 templates on the entire project. Feel free to go ask, but I don't think anyone on Phab is going to care. They're going to tell you the same thing I'm going to tell you: Even much larger projects like Wikipedia and Commons don't have a template space alias, and it's not worth implementing for the half dozen people here who might actually eventually use it. GMGtalk 12:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Only 150 Templates, really? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 13:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Probably around about that which are regularly used. There's 170 in Category:Templates without documentation, but for some, it's anybody's guess what they're even supposed to do. If you don't count the 80 or so stub templates, probably half the existing templates could be deleted and nobody would even notice. GMGtalk 13:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Wait, according to the statistics page I have imported ~200 Templates from Wikipedia, does that mean I have created the majority of them? – Ilovemydoodle (talk / e-mail) 21:28, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Well...I'm doing a bit of back-of-the-envelope guess-timation on just how many of these templates were made by someone once a decade ago and no one on the project even knows they exist. AKA not templates that would actually benefit from a namespace alias. I'm also discounting — as I indicated — about 80 stub templates, because I don't think anyone has those memorized, and they're probably doing like I do, and just going to the category to find the right one. GMGtalk 12:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


2a02:8084:9840:cd00:7cd9:59c8:b937:d156 should be blocked, but three months seems excessive. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 13:37, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Should you block ::/64? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 13:47, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Are you referring to 2a02:c7d:ec4a:cd00:7147:9a9c:2586:54ca? God no, even if it was problematic. That's not a /64, it's a / 5x1030 IP addresses. GMGtalk 14:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    ??? I’m not, I thought you were just meant to do ::/64 in general. – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 14:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Sigh. You don't need a range block unless someone is hopping IP addresses. So...Imagine someone is riding on a high speed train and every few minutes they jump cell phone towers and change IP address. So you put the addresses into a calculator to get the range, but it blocks everything between the addresses. So you have to be careful how big it is. There have been times in the past on other projects where someone accidentally blocked like an entire cell phone provider for an entire country because they weren't paying close attention. GMGtalk 14:32, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    w:User:TonyBallioni/Just block the /64Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 14:37, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    As it happens, Tony taught me quite a bit of what I know about range blocks. But no, I don't do range blocks as a matter of course, not even on Commons, and this is a much smaller project with much less traffic. GMGtalk 14:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mario and Sonic Adventures 4: Leyend of the of the Abominable Snowman[edit]

Can I see the revision history of the page? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF) (talk / e-mail) 15:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I think permanent block is too long, maybe three months? – Ilovemydoodle (Not WMF, Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus, Not a paid editor of Shueisha) (talk / e-mail) 10:47, 10 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Did you get pinged to that page? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 11:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • No. And if you're getting at what I think you're getting at, I'm not entirely too keen on being pinged every time someone drops a deletion template. GMGtalk 11:11, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Not a deletion Template, just block request Template that should only be used if the user is being VERY diruptive. — Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet of Antandrus) (talk / e-mail) 11:13, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    We generally use things like categories for stuff like that. So someone can pop in, check a maintenance category, and clean it out of they have time. If I'm trying to resolve something at c:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard and I'm getting 15 pings from templates on Wikiquote, I'm not going to be a happy camper. GMGtalk 13:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vandalism in a wiki[edit]

I have seen several cases of vandalism in this wiki, how can I report it?

Regards, Thanks.

Johnysnooww (talk) 16:05, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Johnysnooww: You have only worked on a single page. The article has been nominated for deletion. At the conclusion of the discussion, an administrator will assess the community consensus.

Please do not remove the template for the discussion, as this notifies members of the community that the discussion is ongoing. GMGtalk 22:17, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Please could you undelete Module:Unsubst? It's used in all those clean-up templates that Ilovemydoodle has been copying from wikipedia, so it is now used in hundreds of pages [2], which it wasn't when it was nominated for deletion. The deletion has caused "no such module" LUA errors to appear all over over the site, e.g. in 2022 monkeypox outbreak. Thnaks, 16:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Don't pretend to know what all that means, but I'll take your word for it. GMGtalk 16:46, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you, It's a rather clever module, it basically makes it impossible to substitute templates, if you substitute something which uses it it automatically unsubstitutes itself.
    could you also undelete Template:Category handler? It's also being used in the inline cleanup tags copied from wikipedia so is currently used in 166 pages [3]. Thanks, 16:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Y Done GMGtalk 16:54, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks, much appreciated. 16:58, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello GreenMeansGo, I'm currenly working my way through Special:WantedCategories, and I noticed that Category:Slurs was deleted by you with the rationale Mass deletion. I'm just going to go ahead and assume that we don't really need a bunch of redirects from racial slurs. I assume this was a mistake and that the category wasn't supposed to be deleted? It doesn't seem like it was a redirect. If the deletion was accidenteal please could you undelete the page, if the deletion was on purpose let me know and I'll depopulate it. 19:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm not sure I can tell you exactly what was happening there. It looks like it was tied up in xwiki abuse. So I may have followed them here from a mess on another project. Feel free to recreate if you think it's helpful. GMGtalk 02:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Having looked at it a bit more closely I don't think this is worth recreating. All of the entries in there seem to be redirects, and to be honest most of them look rather inappropriate, e.g. Chink → Chinese people really doesn't seem like a useful or appropriate redirect, especially since the target doesn't have any content at all about the slur. Would the remaining contents of Category:Slurs be speedy deletable, or will I need to start a VFD? 12:46, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done. I expect that if anyone were to seriously defend these redirects at VfD, we may have to have a discussion about their overall level of competence as a member of the community. GMGtalk 16:04, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lack of Notability[edit]

Hi, these two page have lack of notability: Changerinwiki (talk) 08:52, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It looks like they're already nominated for deletion. GMGtalk 16:05, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit warring[edit]

Thank you for commenting on the admin noticeboard topic about me. I'm not sure what's his problem is, trying to stalk everything I edit then reverting for some loony reason than to upstage so many years of copyright cleanup. I guess its time for formal discussions on enacting the LOQ policy. Either way, that editor is so obsessively focused on my work. I will not flinch on whatever articles need copyright cleanup, and he's the problem, not me. Eaglestorm (talk) 12:21, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well... Regardless of who's "right," I'll not say that you couldn't at least tone things down and help the discussion be more productive. w:WP:AVOIDYOU continues to be solid advice. GMGtalk 16:07, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:tl wasn't supposed to be deleted![edit]

Hello, please can you undelete Template:Tl? Template:T is the recently created duplicate that was supposed to be deleted, the TL template is widley used and has been in use for ages. 17:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The issue might be that Template:T was turned into a redirect in the middle of the discussion, so it redirected you to the other template when you opened it? 17:21, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • You are correct. Fixed. GMGtalk 17:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks! While you're at it could you also delete Module:Dssplit, Module:Tssplit and Module:Qssplit which are parts of the {{ds}}, {{ts}} and {{qs}} templates you've just deleted?
    Module:Message box/m also had a {{db|Author request}} added to the top of it about a month ago, but since templates don't work in lua code it never made it into Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. 17:36, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Y Done GMGtalk 17:46, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @GreenMeansGo Hi again, please could you revert Joe Biden back to this [4] diff from early July, it appears that the Longquote ‎template you just deleted was added to one article. I tried to do it but was disallowed by an edit filter. Thanks, 20:28, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    This is a god awful mess. Two score friggin VfDs because somebody wanted to experiment with templates and modules. GMGtalk 20:38, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Yes, it is a mess, and it's going to take a lot of work to clean up.
    I'll help with the clean-up as best I am able, removing deleted templates and tagging left over junk for speedy deletion (the category is getting a bit full btw), but removing 220 odd templates from an article when those templates should never have been added in the first place is too much to do manually, especially on an article that we really can't leave broken for days on end while people fix it, a rollback is the only real solution there. Luckily apart from the templates being added the only other edits were the addition of 1 quote and some vandalism that hadn't been reverted.
    I just figured out what that really weird long quote template was too and why it had such a weird setup [5]. After being told not to add Template:Blockquote to that article they created Template:Longquote as a secret version of the same thing that only displayed to them, that's why it had the really weird "need to modify your personal CSS files to get it to work" setup. It was done deliberately so other editors wouldn't notice them adding it to articles.
    My next project is going to be localising and rationalising the mess of imported cleanup templates, because a lot of them are just direct copy pastes from the English Wikipedia and don't really work or make sense here. I've started a discussion about {{cleanup}} at the village pump to try to get some direction on what would work best for this project. 20:54, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Hello again,
    Could you also speedy delete Template:Quadruple strikethrough/styles.css and Template:Triple strikethrough/styles.css as part of the strikethrough templates? As they are CSS pages I can't tag them for speedy deletion. Thanks, 18:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Y Done GMGtalk 18:59, 2 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A couple of modules that need speedy deleting[edit]

Hello once again,

I've come across a couple more lua modules that need deleting, but I can't tag them normally because they're not wikitext. Could you delete them please? The two pages are Module:Message box/m/configuration, which is a configuration page for a deleted module that's been tagged with {{db|Author request}}, and Module:Subst/sub, which is a sandbox of the deleted module Module:Subst. Thanks, 11:26, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Y Done GMGtalk 15:50, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Do you think you could help with this? – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 17:57, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


P.S. The "Catholic church guy" is GRP, he has been socking for over fifteen years and is banned by the Wikimedia Foundation. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 22:08, 31 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's not a new or special thing. There are so many LTAs on WM projects that I stopped looking them up by name most of the time. That you seem so singularly focused on this one just makes me think that you haven't dealt with very many LTAs. There's a guy who's been socking for like eight years now who only focuses on the Cambodian New Year for whatever reason. This dude is just really obsessed with Catholicism and for some reason wrongly formatting images. The stuff that catches my attention nowadays is like... the guy we had to report to the police for trying to upload children's books normalizing child sexual abuse.
LTAs are just the cost of doing business. Don't focus on them and definitely don't make them into pseudo celebrities. They're just a nuisance. GMGtalk 02:40, 10 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I wasn't, I just saw your comment and was under the impression that you were uninformed on this particular issue. Also, I have seen many LTAs. – Ilovemydoodle (Not a sockpuppet) (talk / e-mail) 20:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


As we seem to have a dearth of uninvolved admins, can you close Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/2022 monkeypox outbreak? It is long-lingering, but I have completely rewritten the page from the time that the discussion began, and recent participation in the discussion reflects that. BD2412 T 17:12, 10 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category dilemma[edit]

Hi GreenMeansGo: What is your opinion of THIS EDIT? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 03:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ottawahitech: Women singers is already contained within women musicians. So it's overcategorization. GMGtalk 00:29, 18 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion request for Dale Dauten[edit]

{{subst:VFDNote|Dale Dauten}} Markjoseph125 (talk) Markjoseph125 (talk) 19:14, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • It's not really clear what you're asking here. GMGtalk 11:53, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It was the attempted substitution of the VFD notice, as you were involved in editing Dale Dauten before it was deleted. --Ferien (talk) 17:43, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blocking of Om777om[edit]

Hi GreenMeansGo, May I ask you some questions about your 2019 blocking of Om777om? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 22:09, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Yes? But I'm not sure I remember all that many details about something that happened four years ago. GMGtalk 14:33, 20 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For what it's worth, this wasn't double bolding anything. It was making the text both bold and italic. It should have been reverted anyway so it doesn't really matter. --Ferien (talk) 17:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Creating categories on enwq[edit]

Hi GreenMeansGo,

I just saw your reply at the village pump and realized you have a talent to describe complex topics with a short, but very instructive content.

However, you said this:

  • really shouldn't create a new category unless you can link it up and out to others. So like..."Women from Arkansas" could link up to Category:People from Arkansas

which may sound like an invitation for newbies to create new categories. Do we really want to encourage this?

Just wondering... Ottawahitech (talk) 13:51, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As long as they maintain a tree to top level terminal categories, then yeah. ( upside-down tree.) I don't know that many readers use cats, but they're useful for automated tools. GMGtalk 13:55, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Do you believe that new cats should be created when there is only one item in the cat? Ottawahitech (talk) 14:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Do you believe that cats only use is for automated tools? So cats are of no use to mere reader? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:13, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I mean, no...not really. I don't expect most readers look at them. Certainly most new editors don't seem to intuitively use them. I don't expect most readers are aware at all that there is something...anything...outside main space. I surely didn't for a good while.
Having said that, cats can be extremely useful for large scale analysis, especially xwiki and if they're connected cross-project on WD. You wanna know how many women from Algeria have an article but not one here? We can do that. GMGtalk 17:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Recommendation of a gadget[edit]

Hello GreenMeansGo, you may want to have a try for Clean Delete Reasons, some of your deletion logs still contain spam links added by spammers, this gadget is quite convenient for clear them. -Lemonaka 16:08, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Lemonaka: Just curious: why remove useful information from the deletion logs? Us, non-admin users, sometime have to rely on deletion logs to piece together why a certain page was deleted.
Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Hmm. I mean the logs aren't indexed in any way AFAIK. I guess it probably looks messier, but I normally don't hide a lot of stuff unless it's just grossly degrading or something like non-public information. GMGtalk 18:00, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]