Talk:Mike Pence

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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Mike Pence page.


User:Joreberg is using dubious "sources" merely for their journalistic titles which are almost invariably political attacks and insulting of Pence. Here is one example: "Archived: Jerry Brown makes True claim: Mike Pence 'denies evolution'". If you read the quotation, and the quotations provided in the article, Pence says he doesn't know, and will ask God when he meets him. Note that Pence never actually "denies" (a heresy word, more appropriate for religion than for science) evolution – not knowing something is neither denying it nor affirming it. Until the article is cleaned up with more neutral citations, or better yet primary sources, the {{NPOV}} tag should remain. ~ DanielTom (talk) 19:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

From Snopes, a fact-checking resource:
"The VP-elect may not have absolutely denied the phenomenon of evolution, but he has said that "intelligent design provides the only even remotely rational explanation for the known universe.""
Now, if "intelligent design" is the only explanation, how much room is there for other explanations, like evolution?
The article mentioned by DanielTom includes the Pence quote
"Chris, I believe with all my heart that God created the heavens and the earth, the seas and all that is in them. … How he did that, I’ll ask him about some day."
For most people, believing something that excludes evolution and denying evolution is approximately the same thing.
It is very touching that DanielTom seems to want to downplay some of the more outlandish quotes from Pence, but these quotes are interesting and important for the general public.
Joreberg (talk) 10:57, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
I agree that the clarification by Snopes should be added but it must be described in an impartial tone. Rupert Loup 13:49, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
  • I updated the "source"; it is less misleading now. The quotations are fine, of course, but such misleading journalistic titles (invariably selected by User:Joreberg, one assumes for that very reason) are not. Let's not compromise the integrity of WQ for political expediency. ~ DanielTom (talk) 17:39, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Terrible choices of quotes[edit]

Who has written this biased, left-wing article? Cenk Uygur?

@, if you have right-wing quotes, why not simply add them? Ottawahitech (talk) 03:06, 22 November 2020 (UTC)