User talk:Cirt/Archive 2

Your welcome message on my talk page

Thanks! --Edcolins 07:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

FYI:

[1]. Cheers, Tiptoety ^talk 20:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 20:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikiquote talk:Quote of the day

Hello Cirt. As a provisional quick fix, I have undone some of your changes relating to the Quote of the Day. Please see discussion at Wikiquote talk:Quote of the day. ~ Ningauble 18:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikiquote interlanguage communication

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Gabrielle Giffords

Excellent beginning for the article on Gabrielle Giffords. Very good work. ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 18:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 18:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Just a thought, as the event appears to have noticeable political impact, what do you think of an article about the 2011 Tucson shooting? I am asking out of an overabundance of caution as I am still getting accustomed to the different notability thresholds here. KimChee 22:38, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Herla (talk · contributions) block 2011·05·21

I continue to sincerely contend that your past and continued presumptive blocking of my other accounts here, and defacing their user pages as "abuse of multiple accounts", as well as moves to block and deface even the pages of my primary accounts elsewhere, thus preventing me from even doing quite simple and beneficial edits is an extreme misuse and abuse of your privileges as an administrator and as a human being. I do forgive you as an obviously very ignorant and confused person, but it is becoming a bit more than an irritation to me, and might soon warrant a far more extensive analysis and exposition of the obsessively insulting and destructive behavior you have sometimes obviously engaged in on a massive scale. I do hope to be able to help pardon you from some of the worst potential consequences of such activity, but there are always limits to what we can do for the benefit of other people, and I won't go so far to protect you from such humiliations and shame as you probably have often deserved, if it actually involves permitting harm to occur to far more innocent and admirable people — as some of your actions have already to some extent done, in my honest opinion. ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 16:49, 21 May 2011 (UTC) + tweaks

Kalki, I wish you were able to communicate with other human beings, without simultaneously spewing forth attacks and vitriol at them. -- Cirt (talk) 17:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I can repeat the same assertion, on my part, in regards to you, and what genuinely seems to me to be your immense and apparently often oblivious hypocrisy. In coming months I do intend to clearly and gradually expand upon MANY of my past reasons for some of my past behavior and comments, or lack of them, and make many of the meanings of them far more clear to those who are so presumptive as to believe they known enough to judge others, and seek to overreach in what they can properly do to constrain and control the rights of other human beings. I sincerely DO wish you well, but because of this I will assert to you that just because you are someone who seems to be very skilled at disguising or denying your own capacities for vitriolic harshness and what I sincerely consider your deceitful and mind-poisoining behavior, does not mean that it goes entirely unnoticed. I have never called for you to be stripped of any of your privileges, despite what I consider your extreme misuse of them at times, and I continue to abide by that — I "attack" you with nothing more than presentation of my honest and sincere opinions — and "threaten" you with nothing more than a continued devotion to speaking with candor and sincerity in times of contention. For some years now I have been threatened, insulted and severely constrained and punished by people who presumed they had the right and duty to judge me and condemn me in ways that I contend were NOT clearly warranted, and in at least a few cases I believe actually clearly and greatly exceeded their actual duties and rights or what I consider to be basic human decency. We are adversaries on some matters, and will probably continue to be for some time yet — yet I have faced adversaries before, whom when they learned a bit more of my skills, abilities and what actually was motivating me to act in vigorous opposition to their will, recognized they had erred in far more ways than they could have ever anticipated, and became allies and even to some extent friends. I hope that can eventually be the case here, as unlikely as that seems at this time. There are other things of far greater concern to me than clarifying many of my motives and discernments to you — and I expect many of the most crucial ones shall become more evident in the months and years to come. ~ Kalki (talk · contributions) 17:34, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Please, stop posting to my talk page, now. Thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 19:49, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikiquote:Requests for checkuser/BD2412‎

Greetings. My RFB and my CU application are two separate processes, since it quite possible that they may have different outcomes. If you intend to oppose my CU request, please vote to do so at Wikiquote:Requests for checkuser/BD2412‎. Cheers! BD2412 T 18:10, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Note to self - LGBT featured stuff

• w:Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies
• w:Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/FA-class articles
• w:Portal:LGBT/Featured class

-- Cirt (talk) 17:33, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Question

The other day when I was editing Tabitha and Napoleon D'umo, I had an issue decided what external link was appropriate. At the time the external link that I had there was to their official website nappytabs.com but this website is mostly used to sell clothing for their dancewear line called "nappytabs" so I wasn't sure if it was appropriate. Before coming here I went to Wikiquote:External links but that has little guidance since it's a work in progress. The guide on people pages wasn't helpful either. Nappytabs has no other website, just other social networking pages. So what I did was put a link to their YouTube channel instead. Is that okay? I was thinking of putting a link to IMDb but they have separate IMDb pages which is odd because they always (literally) work together. Please advise. // Gbern3 (talk) 12:46, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I'd suggest further discussion at WQ:VP. -- Cirt (talk) 21:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

AvicBot

Hello. Per the issue I mentioned to you on EnWp, can you remove the autoblock for User:AvicBot? Thanks. -Avicennasis (SWMT) 12:16, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Y Done. -- Cirt (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

User HoustonBuddie

Is this description right? The Abbott spammers and the Appel spammers do seem to be "kindred spirits" of a sort, but I had no idea they were actually related. ~ Ningauble 14:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they are all socks of TRATTOOO. -- Cirt (talk) 21:37, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Ma Anand Sheela

Ma Anand Sheela has been listed at Votes for deletion. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Ma Anand Sheela. Thank you. ~ Ningauble 19:26, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Infobox templates

I have listed some templates, which you ported here from Wikipedia, at Votes for deletion. If you are interested in the discussions, please comment at Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Template:Infobox criminal, Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Template:Infobox civilian attack, and Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Template:Infobox. (The last of these, a general infobox framework, includes several auxiliary templates.) Thank you. ~ Ningauble 20:46, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the notification, I'll respectfully defer to community consensus on these. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 17:06, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

RE: Thank you

You're welcome. --Michaeldsuarez 14:22, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Note to self: Praise of my work on this project by others

diff, diff = admin BD2412. -- Cirt (talk) 20:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Girlfriend

I'm having problems getting a girlfriend. Can you give me an inspirational qutote? I'm sad and wanting love :( Hi I'm Stan 03:47, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Inspiration. -- Cirt (talk) 04:05, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Your recent conduct.

You appear to have a vendetta against Kalki. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who has that impression. In the past few days, you have been incessant about both pointing out Kalki's misbehavior, and objecting to conduct on Kalki's part which violates none of our extant policies, to the point of being annoying. In particular, you have jumped to declaring consensus on issues, or criticized Kalki for acting against consensus, where in fact nothing that we would recognize as a consensus has had time to develop. You have misinterpreted what other admins have said to support your view of consensus.

If you see a quote or image on a page that you think should not be there, unless it is blatant vandalism like pornography or slander, just begin a discussion on the talk page providing an argument as to why it should not be there. Wikiquote is a legacy project; we're building something that is intended to be around perpetually into the future. We will survive just fine if a quote or an image that we don't care for sits on a page for a week while the question of its propriety is being discussed. We will survive just as well if a useful policy is not enacted and implemented for a few weeks while we hash it out. In the meantime, keep calm and carry on.

With respect to Kalki's comments and edit summaries, your fellow admins are not impaired. We can see what Kalki is saying and doing without it being pointed out in every instance. You may have noticed that I have blocked Kalki for 48 hours in response to his continued (if somewhat muted) incivility. That should be the end of the matter. I respectfully request that you try to find things to do on this project that do NOT involve confrontations with Kalki. Cheers! BD2412 T 21:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, BD2412, I agree with your assessment of the situation, I've read this over carefully and will do my best to implement your advice. -- Cirt (talk) 04:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

And, to that end, I have given even more notice of Wikiquote_talk:Image_use_policy#Proposed:_BD2412_suggested_criteria. :) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 04:29, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your attentiveness to my comments. I hope that my criticism is taken as constructive. As you know, I think you do fine work here. Cheers! BD2412 T 19:48, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 19:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Notice re discussion of Image use policy

Please see Wikiquote_talk:Image_use_policy#Proposed:_BD2412_suggested_criteria. -- Cirt (talk) 04:28, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Idioma-bot

Hi! Could you be so kind and unblock my bot? Request is already filled for a long time, issues regarding e-mail are fixed. Hugo.arg 14:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Donkey punch

I am preparing to close the deletion discussion on this page; there is clear consensus to delete. However, if you prefer, I am willing to userfy the page to your user space, or merge the edit history into that of Sexual slang (the latter of which could use a broader range of quotes, by the way, particularly on the tendency of people to come up with all manner of euphemisms for all manner of sexual acts). Let me know if you have a preference on this matter. Cheers! BD2412 T 16:42, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Created new category, Freedom of speech

• Category:Freedom of speech

Created new category, for Freedom of speech. This is in conjunction with crosswiki sister project coordination at Commons:Category:Freedom of speech. Please feel free to help populate it, that'd be most appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 06:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

New York Times Co. v. Sullivan

I didn't realize we had a page on this case! Very good job. Since you are interested in freedom of speech as an issue, I would highly recommend you get a copy of Make No Law: The Sullivan Case and the First Amendment, by Anthony Lewis. It is a very readable and engaging book on the history of the case and the freedoms involved as a whole, definitely an excellent source of quotes on the topic generally and this case specifically. Cheers! BD2412 T 19:32, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Al Franken

Cirt, I see that you have questioned my expansion of the intro to this page - let me first say that I usually prefer shorter intros myself. But in this case, to not include information about Franken's past - where he had a much greater level of fame and notability - seems a bit foolish. I am sure there are some who only know him from his past and may not even be aware that he is now a member of Congress. In any case, my version is still shorter than a prior longer intro, yet longer than just the one you preferred. I wasn't trying to jump into the middle of other ongoing arguments on the page, I just felt that leaving out this information was wrong. Thanks. ~ UDScott (talk) 19:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

About images...

Very glad to help out. The whole situation has gone completely out of control, and I suppose the only way to fix it is to have a clear policy that, if violated, can lead to serious consequences. Right now, this situation makes WQ look far less serious than it is, and it's very good to see that it may be fixed. Macspaunday (talk) 20:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Just got back to find the discussion well under way. I'm not familiar enough with WQ internal procedures to judge how best to encourage a decision, but I'll try to come up with something that may be useful. Macspaunday (talk) 21:50, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

And an ignorant question: at the public discussion, you mentioned "OTRS" - that abbreviation is new to me and I can't guess what it means. I'd be very grateful for illumination about it! Macspaunday (talk) 22:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Got it - thank you! Macspaunday (talk) 00:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/15

I have updated this filter to a more specific regex, and it is my recommendation that the filter be upgraded to issue a warning, as from my trials at enWS it seems to be effective against the account creation progressing. sDrewth 13:04, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Sure, by all means, feel free to do that please! And thanks very much for your help! :) -- Cirt (talk) 20:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)