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If you hang out with a loser, you are a loser?[edit]

It should be correctly quoted: "I've always said, if you hang out with losers, you become a loser. And that's what's happened to you, Alex". ->


This page is ridiculous. They cite FAIR as the source for racists comments by Trump. FAIR is a far left hate group that cannot be trusted for directions to a gas station. 03:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

  • [citation needed] FAIR is meticulously accurate, and Trump not only has not disputed the quotes, he himself told Playboy, "The stuff O'Donnell wrote about me is probably true." — Robin Lionheart 22:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

FAIR is a joke, not accurate in the least. They, like Media Matters serve only to attack by taking words out of context. They are only a mouthpiece for far-left wackadoos. 20:32, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

What's your best example of an inaccurate quote by FAIR (assuming you have any at all)?
You can become an editor here too, anonymous namecaller. If you find an inaccurate quote on this wiki, then cite a reliable source and correct it. If more context would make a quote on this wiki mean something different, then cite a reliable source and provide it. — Robin Lionheart 17:14, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

The quotes you published are perfect examples. Trump never said the quotes regarding blacks were "probably true." He was speaking of the book in general. There is no proof he actually said and FAIR is not considered reliable. The book, "The Way Things Aren't" by FAIR about Rush Limbaugh, was full of inaccuracies and half truths. For example they took Limbaugh to task for saying that there is more forest land today than when Columbus arrived. That was a quote taken out of context. That is just one example,; do the research. My point is that FAIR would not be considered a reliable source by anyone except on some wiki site because they traffic in far left politics, lies, and quotes taken out of context. You might as well be quoting Media Matters, who would not be considered a reliable source either. You are going to have to do much better than that if you want anyone to take you seriously. Do some research before you post instead of trying to look for something that matches your political beliefs and posting it, regardless of the source. 03:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so your best example is FAIR's book The Way Things Aren't: Rush Limbaugh's Reign of Error citing Rush Limbaugh saying "We have more acreage of forest land in the United States today than we did at the time the Constitution was written." on his radio show on 1994-02-18 (when according to the US Forest Service, the opposite is true). What additional context do you think that quote needs? (You will also want to provide it on the Rush Limbaugh page where I've just added that quotation.) — Robin Lionheart 18:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I've done what I set out to do here, which is expose the fact that you used a poor source to further your political beliefs. Nobody but a far left wackodoo would even try to put FAIR as a source. I've proved my point. Don't worry little fella, nobody is going to delete your quote; but they will see why you put it here. You wanted to portray him as a racist, when the opposite is true; shown by his life and words. You should be ashamed. I am done here as I have accomplished my goal. Good luck to you. STUDY and LEARN. 22:40, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

To prove your point, you had to back up your charges that FAIR is "not accurate in the least" and traffics in "lies" and "quotes taken out of context". Since you did not, your victory lap seems premature. However, you may have accomplished your goal, if your goal was to anonymously wage an unsubstantiated smear campaign. Should you ever have anything of substance to say challenging a quote here, do come back and share it. — Robin Lionheart 02:09, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Our anonymous interlocutor is merely exhibiting the same sort of ad hominem genetic fallacy that is so widespread in contemporary polemics. My beef with popular "commentators" (left, right, and center) is that the prevalence of their disingenuous rhetoric has so poisoned public discourse that many otherwise sensible people are misled into honestly believing that this sort of bogus argument actually proves anything. The celebrity commentators are smart enough to know it is nonsense, but cynically pretend to drink their own Kool-Aid because it convinces the gullible to gulp it down. ~ Ningauble 17:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
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This quote has now been given a section of its own by Illegitimate Barrister, which will make it stand out even more. I disagree with the IP complaining above, who apparently believes the quote should be deleted. But if the book in question was indeed written by "a fired and totally disgruntled employee" (as seems to be the case), then the quote is of course very problematic. I changed the title of the section to "Disputed", and quoted Trump's defense (it is not clear from the Washington Examiner article whether Trump specifically denied the quote). For what it's worth, its final words ("It really is, I believe that.") make me think the quote is made up. ~ DanielTom (talk) 02:35, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

For the record, Trump denied ever saying it. ~ DanielTom (talk) 15:55, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Quoting rival political candidates[edit]

DanielTom (talk · contributions) has added a neutrality dispute header to the About section because it includes a quote by Rick Perry. This is not uncommon. Frex, we have a quote by Mitt Romney on the Barack Obama page, and vice versa. To the contrary, it'd be biased of us to not include notable quotations criticizing a political candidate. ~ Robin Lionheart (talk) 08:32, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

That's not the reason. All quotes, except one, are insulting or attacking Trump (even his IQ). Do you honestly think that section (as it is now) can be considered neutral and balanced? ~ DanielTom (talk) 08:45, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh, is that all? If you can find a notable, complimentary quote (by someone other than Trump himself), feel free to add it. ~ Robin Lionheart (talk) 08:51, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Disputed quote[edit]

Although he definitely disputed the quote later, the interview where he said the allegations were "probably true" should not be treated as a denial just because he also insulted the person quoting him.--Mugasofer (talk) 17:36, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Rapists quote[edit]

Currently reads:

They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists.

We 100% sure this is accurate? It seems like it could also be this:

They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime, their rapists.

The 'people that have lots of problems' quote is talking about a list of things they bring with them, not describing those people, as we can see in those earlier too points, so it seems odd that he would suddenly out of the blue say 'they're rapists!' as opposed so saying they are bringing their rapists, as in rapists are a portion rather than an entirety of the PTHLOP.

Obviously this is the sound bite that a lot of people are running with. The closed captions for a clip of this shown on The Passionate Eye even reads "they are rapists" (which is false because he clearly does not say 'are').

The problem is that ðɛɚ is how both their and they're can be pronounced, they are homophones, so shouldn't we present both cases as possible? Ranze (talk) 12:34, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

  • The second option is not a particularly logical reading, for three reasons. First, it is a consistent series of "they're" statements which follows the rule of three (which Trump consistently uses). Second, "They're rapists" - is accusing "them" of being rapists, whereas "their rapists" would be accusing the "them" of "bringing" their rapists, which creates a rather awkward category of "people who bring rapists". Third, this also doesn't fit with the statement that follows, that "some, I assume, are good people"; if the last object referent is not "Mexicans" as a whole, but merely "their rapists", then Trump would be saying that he assumes some of the rapists are good people. That seems unlikely. BD2412 T 13:02, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Wasn't he just discussing people who illegally immigrated from Mexico? That could certainly include Mexicans who were denied (or did not apply for) legal immigration, but it could also include non-Mexicans too since it isn't just Mexicans who are able to be in Mexico. Ranze (talk) 23:58, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

The first line of the quote is: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best". The object of the sentence here is people sent by Mexico. The statement does not specify whether these people are entering the United States legally or illegally, but it's hard to see how "its people" refers to anything other than Mexicans. What non-Mexican's would be considered Mexico's people? BD2412 T 03:49, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Does Not Appear to be written from a Neutral Point of View[edit]

This page doesn't seem to be written from a neutral point of view. In my opinion this page needs to be retired until after the election as well as any other political figures so as to not to become the center of any of the individuals being quoted. If the quotes were inaccurate or incomplete, the results could be disastrous. --wizbang_fl 05:11, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Can you point to some specific examples of issues that need fixing? BD2412 T 12:38, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
@wizbang In my opinion, what you just said is a reason that pages about political candidates must not be retired in the lead-up to an election. Because that's when an up-to-date page where people can look up accurate quotes is most needed. ~ Robin Lionheart (talk) 20:12, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

image captions[edit]

The quote from Trump's most recent book:

  • I give people what they need and deserve to hear - exactly what they don't get from politicians - and that is The Truth.

is much preferable to

  • You've been hearing me say it's a rigged system, but now I don't say it anymore because I won. It's true. Now I don't care.

as the lead quote. (And it was actually chosen by Peter1c, not me.) I think everyone can understand this, but as DragonflySixtyseven is keeping up his trollish changes, I'm starting this discussion here. I reverted his other caption changes from today; pls discuss before changing them again. ~ DanielTom (talk) 13:08, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Bolded text[edit]

Several text passages are bolded, I can't see why. Could someone give reason here, before I remove the formatting? John Harris 15:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Quotes about his voter demographic[edit]

I was wondering if generally quotes that break down voter demographics for a candidate would be appropriate to include and specifically if this one would work.

  • Did you know that of the 14 states with the highest number of painkiller prescriptions per person, they all went for Trump?
    • Bill Maher Real Time with Bill Maher, January 20th 2017

CensoredScribe (talk) 22:50, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

"Grab 'em by the pussy."[edit]

Trump was not (and is not) commanding the general public to grab women "by the pussy". He said that women let STARS do it. In a braggadocious way, when talking to another "star" in private. (And we already dedicate an image to it.) Making this the lead quote turns the Trump article into a hit piece and Wikiquote into a joke, I think. ~ DanielTom (talk) 14:51, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Nobody ever said he was. We're just putting the quote in as it is.

An island surrounded by water[edit]

Could somebody please add this, said about Puerto Rico following Hurricane Maria: "This is an island. Surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water."

Apprentice episode on white trash[edit]

“What do you mean you're white trash?”
“No, you're not joking about that, what do you mean you're white trash?”
“Does that make you white trash, do you feel you're white trash?”
“That's a pretty stinking statement. Don't you think that's a pretty bad statement about yourself?”
“Do you go around calling yourself white trash? Do you think I want to hire someone who's white trash?”
“I don't like it as a joke. You know what, you're fired.”
”I think that is just so stupid for you to say- you're fired. Go! Terrible.”
“You shouldn't use that expression anymore either”

Does anyone know which particular season/episode this was said in? ScratchMarshall (talk) 00:32, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

-- 12:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)==Failed verification==

  • I blame our leaders. Here we have China, ripping this country off like nobody's ever seen before, and we have the president of China come, a few months ago, to Washington, and we give him a state dinner. Now when people are screwing you, you don't give 'em state dinners. [...] What we do, is we sit down in my office for a couple of hours. We either make a deal where you stop manipulating your currency or not. If we make a deal, you can have a state dinner if you want. If we don't make a deal, you take McDonald's, and you go home.
  • It's always so simple. What would you do? What could you do? So easy. I drop a 25% tax on China. And, you know, I said to somebody that it's really the messenger. The messenger is important. I could have one man say [effete voice] "We're going to tax you 25%", and I can say another, "Listen, you motherf---ers, we're going to tax you 25%." You've said the same thing. You've said the same exact thing when it's the messenger. [...] I'll tell you what's going to happen. When they believe the message— they don't believe it right now— when they believe the message, they're going to do one thing. They're going to give us anything they want.
  • Did you see recently where, a couple of days ago? Saudi Arabia said, "ah, let's raise the price. Let's cut production." Could you believe it? You're gonna be payin' five or six dollars a gallon on gasoline pretty soon. And they want to...they want to go in and raise the price of oil. Because we have nobody in Washington that sits back and says, "You're not gonna raise that f---ing price!" You understand me?

- Rupert loup (talk) 01:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Israel quote by the mayor of Jerusalem[edit]

"President Trump decided to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the Jewish people, stand on the side of historical truth and do the right thing." Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat. Can someone add the quote? Here is the source. -- 12:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

The Apprentice[edit]

The Apprentice (UK) has a sizable article. How about one for The Apprentice (US)?

Add the following quotes?[edit]

  • September 2016: "People don't know how great you are. People don't know how smart you are. These are the smart people. These are the smart people. These are really the smart people. And they never like to say it, but I say it. And I'm a smart person. These are the smart. We have the smartest people. We have the smartest people. And they know it. Some say it, but they hate to say it. But we have the smartest people." (Source)
  • May 2013: "Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault" (Source)
  • September 2014: "Every time I speak of the haters and losers I do so with great love and affection. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up! (Source)
  • November 2012: "Why is Obama playing basketball today? That is why our country is in trouble!" (Source)
  • January 2018: "We should have a contest as to which of the Networks, plus CNN and not including Fox, is the most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage of your favorite President (me). They are all bad. Winner to receive the FAKE NEWS TROPHY!" (Source)

November 2015 comments re New Jersey[edit]

Nov 21 rally speech in Birgmingham:

I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.

Nov 22 interview with George Stephanopoulous:

It was on television. I saw it. It was well covered at the time, George. Now, I know they don't like to talk about it, but it was well covered at the time. There were people over in New Jersey that were watching it, a heavy Arab population, that were cheering as the buildings came down. Not good.

I added these quotes with sources but am wondering if anyone is able to locate video of both comments for those curious about contextual placement within the larger body of speech/interview or tone of voice, etc.

This appears to be a 6m30s excerpt of the Birmingham speech and I flipped through quickly but didn't notice the first quote, though I expect Trump spoke longer than that so it might not be in the clip or I might have just overlooked it since I didn't watch it straight through.

There is a 31 July 2016 interview between George and Donald which I found but haven't been able to find video of this 22 November 2015 interview. Anyone able to help locate minute/second in a video somewhere? Ranze (talk) 19:08, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

2005 Larry King interview[edit]

A Fox article mentioned:

Trump also used the arm-thrashing act when making fun of himself during an interview with Larry King in 2005

I found this 17 May 2005 interview. Does anyone know if Trump did any other interviews with King during that year?

It's 16 minutes long so I plan to review it to see if there was any of this alleged arm-thrashing but am wondering if anyone remembers if/when it happened. Ranze (talk) 20:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC)


I have found several paraphrasings regarding something he allegedly said, but no specific quotes:

  • NYT " In a meeting with lawmakers, President Trump said the United States needed more immigrants from places like Norway and fewer from Haiti "
  • NYT "When Mr. Trump heard that Haitians were among those who would .... the United States should admit more people from places like Norway."
  • CNBC "The move came after President Trump reportedly called Haiti a "s--thole" and asked why we don't have more immigrants from Norway."
  • Vox "President Trump reportedly referred to Haiti and countries in Africa as ... called for more immigrants from places like Norway at an Oval Office"
  • WashPo " Dawsey is reporting that Trump made a similar comment about wanting more immigrants from places like Norway"

Anyone know what the original purported phrasing was? So many people paraphrase it's hard to know what to look for but I would like to quot it. 17:28, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Intercept: Glen Greenwald's 'The FBI’s Investigation of Trump as a “National Security Threat” is Itself a Serious Danger.[edit]

GreenMeansGo Please note, it seems the article has more than 3300 words. Am posting 311 words... quoting Mr. Greenwald. Thank you.

Om777om (talk) 19:50, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Your original formulation was nearly 400 words comprising about a seventh of the of the piece. We may sometimes use larger quotations from larger works, such as books, especially when the work is in the public domain, not that we necessarily should, even if we can. But we cannot use large swaths of copyrighted text that accounts for a substantial portion of a whole work. This standard is non-negotiable under both current law and local policy. GMGtalk 20:33, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
  • GreenMeansGo: The actual quoted text on my second try, posted shortly after sending you that note, excluding the title and link was 311 - but whatever. It's good to know. Thank you for sharing the information & all the good things you do. Om777om (talk) 20:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)